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LASIK surgery/PRK surgery and boxing?

Postby Hardwork » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:04 pm

I am scheduled to get LASIK surgery in a week. There are two options:

LASIK - From my understanding, the flap in your eye is manipulated someway. You are seeing 20/20 six hours after the surgery.

PRK - From my understanding, the flap is not compromised. Recovery process is 3 weeks until you are seeing 20/20.

So while I no longer compete in boxing, I still spar regularly. I let the eye doctor know this, and asked for a suggestion on what procedure I should get. He didn't really lean toward one way over the other. Obviously, the appeal of seeing 20/20 six hours after LASIK surgery is more appealing than the 3 week recovery period. But as far as what is best for me in the long run as someone who does a contact sport, my doctor didn't really given me a definitive answer. He said he hasd one boxer choose PRK and another choose LASIK, and they have since been fine. H basically said choose whatever one I want, and take 1 month off sparring.

I should note that in paying for this procedure, I can go back in at any time and have adjustments done if they are ever necessary at no additional cost. So losing my investment isn't the concern. I would just be interested in my best route. Are there people here that still spar after the LASIK or PRK surgery? I would like to get some feedback. Thank you




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Re: LASIK surgery/PRK surgery and boxing?

Postby speedy » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:04 pm

I have personally considered it do the Lasik. But no matter which is the option, you are messing with eyes. I know there have been a shit load of successes, but one failure would be detremental to anyone and I am talking about the loss of site. Plus, and I seen this a lot, anyone that I know that had Lasik about 10 years later they are losing their near site; like reading and etc. Plus their night vision is shot to shit. Maybe that is why driving at night has been worse lately for all the 10 year veteran's of lasik are on the road.

In short, just wear glasses!
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Re: LASIK surgery/PRK surgery and boxing?

Postby Wrestler » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:31 pm

Hardwork wrote:I am scheduled to get LASIK surgery in a week. There are two options:

LASIK - From my understanding, the flap in your eye is manipulated someway. You are seeing 20/20 six hours after the surgery.

PRK - From my understanding, the flap is not compromised. Recovery process is 3 weeks until you are seeing 20/20.

So while I no longer compete in boxing, I still spar regularly. I let the eye doctor know this, and asked for a suggestion on what procedure I should get. He didn't really lean toward one way over the other. Obviously, the appeal of seeing 20/20 six hours after LASIK surgery is more appealing than the 3 week recovery period. But as far as what is best for me in the long run as someone who does a contact sport, my doctor didn't really given me a definitive answer. He said he hasd one boxer choose PRK and another choose LASIK, and they have since been fine. H basically said choose whatever one I want, and take 1 month off sparring.

I should note that in paying for this procedure, I can go back in at any time and have adjustments done if they are ever necessary at no additional cost. So losing my investment isn't the concern. I would just be interested in my best route. Are there people here that still spar after the LASIK or PRK surgery? I would like to get some feedback. Thank you


My doctor and others have told me this. LASIK, while quicker, compromises the integrity of the eye ball as in t makes it easier for it to tear open in the future. I've heard this heals 100% after a long time but one can never be sure. Prk takes longer but doesn't leave your eyeball weakened. I was told that an athlete or someone in law enforcement should choose prk. Ask another doctors opinion.

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Re: LASIK surgery/PRK surgery and boxing?

Postby Hardcase » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:27 pm

speedy wrote:I have personally considered it do the Lasik. But no matter which is the option, you are messing with eyes. I know there have been a shit load of successes, but one failure would be detremental to anyone and I am talking about the loss of site. Plus, and I seen this a lot, anyone that I know that had Lasik about 10 years later they are losing their near site; like reading and etc. Plus their night vision is shot to shit. Maybe that is why driving at night has been worse lately for all the 10 year veteran's of lasik are on the road.

In short, just wear glasses!

I wrote out a reply to the op's post days ago but didn't post it 'cos i didn't want to down him but now you've brought this up; i too have heard bad tales of things going wrong with this procedure. I have also heard of people who are delighted with it. But to comment on the 20/20 vision: There is no eye surgeon on earth that will guarantee that level of success. It isn't gonna happen. I toyed on and off with the idea of this a while back and talked it over with my optician. He said be very careful and talked me through some scenario's that he has witnessed personally. One guy got his sight so screwed over that he couldn't wear lenses or anything after the op. Whatever had happened to his eyes his sight was crap and lenses couldn't be worn to fix the problem. Basically his sight was ruined.

Another one i heard about from a private eye consultant was the thing speedy spoke about; terrible night vision. Bad halo's around street lighting and stuff. I spoke with this consultant and he said the guy that had been in to see him before me was back again because he wasn't happy about the results of the op and wanted it done again.

Ok i think it's important to stress that these procedures are not without the possibility of problems. On the other hand you could be lucky and it might work out for you. I've heard of some people that have had superb results from it and are over the moon.

I have 20/20 vision with glasses and lenses. I spoke to my optician and said that's the level of sight that i'd be wanting from laser work. He said no way will a surgeon guarantee that outcome. He will tell you he can improve your sight but probably not to that level you get with glasses or contact lenses. He said it's common for people to have the laser work done and still need glasses or lenses because the sight has not improved enough.

I hope you get great results from it, i really do, if you go that route but feel it would be wrong not to have you pause for thought about the risk. That's what the optician told me. I said to him "Well if it's so risky why did Tiger Woods have it done? Him being a world class golfer he would never have it done if there was a risk." Know what he told me? He said "Yeah but Tiger Woods has probably had the best eye surgeon in America working on his eyes. The general public don't have that luxury!"

Guys like Tiger get the a la carte treatment at probably a la carte prices. They can afford it. Think carefully and look into who you've chosen for the procedure.

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Re: LASIK surgery/PRK surgery and boxing?

Postby speedy » Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:58 pm

To further HC's last point, excellent point he made. Similar thing to breast breast augmentation; my ex-sister-in-law had hers done and while I did not see them without her top on, her sister pointed out she had a nasty scar on the bottom. Then you see the naked ones that had it done like porn stars where you can't even find the scar. It's not only about the procedure but who is doing the procedure.
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Re: LASIK surgery/PRK surgery and boxing?

Postby kingsimba » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:28 pm

I got PRK because I was told it was the better option for contact sports. My eyes felt raw for a long time, especially if they got grazed during sparring.

I regret my decision, mostly. Wear glasses.

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Re: LASIK surgery/PRK surgery and boxing?

Postby vivek » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:55 pm

Without overstepping, there are some significant issues here....
LASIK and PRK both change the structural integrity of the lens. The lens determines your vision. Even with a VERY high success rate, the possibility of a complication means a possible permanent visual problem.
I know people who have had permanent dry eyes, damage to the lens, loss of night vision, floaters permanently, halos during the day and night, etc etc. these are people I know firsthand .
Second hand, I know of a guy in his mid forties who had a delayed imflammatory response, which showed up about 6-8 weeks later. He is now totally blind in both eyes.

What do you need to do in life that you cannot do with contacts or glasses?
When I say need to do, I mean NEED not WANT. this is a question only you can answer, and be aware of the potential risk of a permanent visual problem down the line.
The doctor is going to tell you whatever he is going to tell you because......it's not his eyes.
I know a lot of physicians. I know a lot of physicians who have had lasik or PRK. However, I have not met an ophthalmologist (not optometrist) who has had either lasik or PRK. My sample size is small, but that's food for thought.....

That being said, ask yourself,,,,what do you NEED to do that requires un corrected 20 20 vision.
I can think of a few things that would require it... Maybe military stuff, fighter pilot, I dunno.
I get by with glasses or contacts ok. Minimal risk. A bit of a hassle. But I am ok w that. Very personal decision, but since you posted it, I thought I would weigh in.....
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Re: LASIK surgery/PRK surgery and boxing?

Postby Misfit » Wed May 11, 2016 2:34 pm

Hardcase wrote:Guys like Tiger get the a la carte treatment at probably a la carte prices. They can afford it. Think carefully and look into who you've chosen for the procedure.


Tiger actually had his done at TLC eye center, which is a pretty run of mill chain.

To the OP, if you decide to do it, and still plan on getting punched in the face, than you'd be better off with the PRK procedure.

Honestly though, if you're happy with your vision right now, You might as well stick with what you have. Save your money, and don't run the risk. Although in the grand scheme of things, there are complications in a very small percentage of procedures, but why spend the money and take the risk if you're happy with what you have now.

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Re: LASIK surgery/PRK surgery and boxing?

Postby MrFantasy » Thu May 12, 2016 6:32 pm

Misfit wrote:
Hardcase wrote:Guys like Tiger get the a la carte treatment at probably a la carte prices. They can afford it. Think carefully and look into who you've chosen for the procedure.


Tiger actually had his done at TLC eye center, which is a pretty run of mill chain.

To the OP, if you decide to do it, and still plan on getting punched in the face, than you'd be better off with the PRK procedure.

Honestly though, if you're happy with your vision right now, You might as well stick with what you have. Save your money, and don't run the risk. Although in the grand scheme of things, there are complications in a very small percentage of procedures, but why spend the money and take the risk if you're happy with what you have now.

BS he did! Do you think he's gonna risk getting the same procedure done by the same eye surgeons as you or i have available to us? There's no way that happened. Cool story though bro.

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Re: LASIK surgery/PRK surgery and boxing?

Postby Misfit » Sat May 14, 2016 11:09 pm

MrFantasy wrote:BS he did! Do you think he's gonna risk getting the same procedure done by the same eye surgeons as you or i have available to us? There's no way that happened. Cool story though bro.


Are you trying to imply Tiger Woods has access to lasik doctors that the rest us don't? You really think there are lasik doctors out there who will operate only on top flight athletes and not the general public? That's absurd. The same doctors who work on athletes and many a Hollywood celebrity are open to everyone. I know for a fact the doctor who did Lebron James is located in Los Angeles and his practice is open to anyone. Another LA lasik doctor whose done tons of Hollywood celebrities and pro athletes is also open to everyone. I've been there myself for a consulation.

The best in the field are available to everyone. It's not like there's some secret club for the elites, where they keep the "best" lasik doctors just for themselves. The only catch is they charge a bit more. You'll pay a little premium for their reputation.

In terms of Tiger, do an internet search. You'll find numerous sources stating he had his surgery done at TLC. It's common knowledge and easily found on Google. I know he's had his eyes done twice, maybe not both times at TLC, but definitely once, if not both times.


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