speedy wrote: The fact is, unless it's kickboxing or boxing (and I am speaking from experience) most of that stuff really doesn't carry over that much into the real world. There are a few that prove that otherwise but compare them to the majority; well the majority will show it isn't as effective as people believe it to be. Judo is superb for competing but general defense unlikely. Would have some nice carry over if she ever wanted to wrestle or MMA (Ronda Rhousey) but again that should be her idea/choice.
Well, I've been involved in MAs and fight sports pretty much my whole life, and also when I was younger got into a lot of fights all the time at parties, in bars, &c. usually several brawls each night of the weekend... Often interconnected or related to one another throughout the course of the weekend; it's the way it goes. Honestly I believe Judo is excellent for these kinds of situations, I know any time I tossed someone on their heads (with rudimentary TD skills back then too, nothing even close to what a good judoka or wrestler has) and gave them a bit of a kicking, it worked plenty well for me. YMMV... I have noticed you have a pretty low opinion of grappling's efficacy in general though, so perhaps this is showing a little again... I dunno. A buddy of mine wrestled a little in high school, was pretty average and spent half his time drinking beer and smoking weed rather than training very hard... And I still remember in our early twenties, seeing him lay a pretty massive, solid local bar-tough the fuck out when he suplayed him in the carpark. And I mean layed out, dude was sprawled there like a bitch, people throwing beer mugs and peanuts and cigarette butts and shit at him. One split second, went from being known and feared, to laying there pasted on the gravel with people laughing at him and throwing stuff. So obviously, to a degree, it works at least some of the time, yeah? And this wasn't some D1 top-echelon athlete that did it, it was a guy who wrestled a little a few years earlier and not very seriously even at that. Big guy grabbed him by the scruff, Sam hit a duckunder, grabbed the big guy round the waist and BAM.
Now, while I do understand and fully acknowledge that this kind of stuff is, by and large, douchebag young male behavior and of course very far removed from what any of us would be encouraging our children to be doing of a Saturday night, the point I am making is the efficacy in a self defense application. I contend your apparent claim that throwing somebody on their head on the pavement does not work.